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Chechnya Skyscraper Defies 9/11 Physics (Building 7)
u need a plane or truck to crash the building then along with fire burning for several hours then it will crash to the ground.
Debris damage was not part of the NIST WTC 7 hypothesis; the ~5:21 PM collapse was found to have been 100% fire-induced.
watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
The entire collapse took ~20 seconds, and the visible portion of it took ~8.5 seconds. It's very obvious from the framing layout and collapse sequence why it fell symmetrically, and the brief segment at g is also explained by the collapse sequence and the connection details at exterior columns. NCSTAR 1A explains it in detail.
Please urge Box Boy and his "experts" to show you on video with audio how explosives or incendiaries quietly cut the 4.91" flanges, 3.07" webs, and 215 sq in cross sections of W14 X 730 columns like the 11 of 24 in WTC 7's core, and the 4 corner columns in each tower's core:
watch?v=0c2o8k4n9CY
If they ever HAD TO do it, "debate" OVER.
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Also the Chechnya tower is built with a concrete re-inforced core and frame, unlike the wtc structure with was a steel frame tower with no concrete reinforcing.
130 to 140 dB at a half mile for ONE explosive cut on one W14 X 730. If Box Boy and his clowns can do it quietly, let's see it on video with audio.
Fuckin retards
I see you have gobbled the NIST omission report hook line and sinker..
Explosions reaching >130 decibels – which is what would be expected from RDX..
Hence NIST did not forensically investigate for any other incendiaries or accelerants, because there was no audible evidence in the range of RDX..
So according to NIST.. RDX are the only explosives that can be used to bring down a building.??
Dear fucking me, no wonder your country is going to shit..
Have you ever heard a real controlled demolition? 11 of those 24 (not 25) core columns were W14 X 730s, i.e. 4.91" flanges, 3.07" webs, and 215 sq in cross sections. Try inflicting "consistent and instant damage" on even ONE of them ONE TIME with explosives.
There were no reports of the deafening blasts that immediately precede the collapse in any C/D, and NCSTAR 1A is entirely consistent with the available facts and evidence. The fires in the col. 79 area were sufficient to cause the collapse.
In my opinion, the most inexpensive and effective system for really safe and comfortable evacuation of people from skyscrapers is the Russian fire-fighting & evacuation system Automatic Rescue Climber – ARC (especially it is already used on some skyscrapers): techvesti.ru/node/4288
Global building collapses by nature are very quick, and the visible portion of WTC 7's was preceded by ~10 seconds of interior collapsing. The exterior columns were 100% moment connected to spandrel beams, so they had to buckle in unison, not randomly, and the symmetry was built in.
The Grozny fire looked more spectacular than it was, since almost all of it was in exterior walls, not inside. It was under construction and vacant, so thermal insulation was the main source of combustible material.
Read:
en.wikipedia. org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center
Remove the space in the above link.
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That's a rarity among 9/11 truther nuts, but I see that my comments haven't disappeared.
i was refering to your comment =
"Be sure to block me when you remove my comment"
as this guy is somewhat more reasonable than the others
I don't know what you're talking about, but I simply posted some facts about both the Grozny and WTC buildings.
you may be talking to a rational person who is searching ,, & may not be a reality denier ,,
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We can Collapse the Banks. They collapsed WTC #1, #2, and #7? We can collapse their Entire Scam System.
They rewrote FDIC Rules. Your money will be used as a Bail In if the Bank fails.
Remove your deposits and 401Ks TODAY.
BANK RUN. Do I have your attention NOW?
If you want Truth then talk with your money. That's the only voice that they will listen to.
Remove all of your Cash Deposits and 401Ks from the Banking System. Take the Tax Penalty.
If we can collectively do this we can COLLAPSE the entire Banking System as they collapsed WTC #7.
(God has a wonderful way of enacting His vengeance for DECEPTION. You want to Collapse Buildings and kill Hundreds of Thousands with UNJUSTIFIED War? Fine He'll collapse YOU.)
We have the power. Let's use it.
Russian Skyscrapers are superior. American Skyscrapers are built of PAPER.
STOP BUYING ANYTHING MADE IN AMERICA. American products are inferior and defective. That is what WTC #7 proves.
Stop buying American made products as they are INFERIOR.
(Maybe after that they might admit the truth?)
Yeah, I mean I don't know of any audio recordings of the building. It makes sense there would be a loud explosion prior to the building collapsing. Nonetheless, the absence of audio, although indicative of an ABSENCE of traditional explosives, does not explain a near-instantaneous severing/collapse of 25 core columns as a result of varying fires of varying intensities in varying areas, along w/the debris damage. U would expect chunks coming off, parts of the building breaking, not whole collapse
also according to the NIST, a controlled demolition in B7 would have made a noise of at least 130 decibels, which wasn't heard by witnesses, and can't be heard on recordings of the collapse. Your first sentence is cited and factual, after that you just start saying things that you assume. You're not an engineer, you're just guessing. Run what you just said by anyone who knows what they're talking about, they'll tell you you're full of shit.
You obviously need to read NCSTAR 1A. The Grozny fire only burned insulation on the outer walls, and without at least a structural section through the building to see how that affected any columns, along with a firefighting report, it's very premature to make any comparisons to WTC 7's problems of >52' interior beam spans, asymmetry on ~47' 44-79 girder, simple gravity connections inside, and no water pressure to sprinklers and hoses – the main reason the FDNY decided at ~2:30 PM to let it burn.
By the miracle of cause-divining by collapse rate, all 24 core columns and 58 perimeter columns were secretly cut with explosives. Your earnest quest for the truth should prompt you to ask for a demonstration of that remarkable feat on at least one W14 X 730 column like the 11 in WTC 7's core. They have 4.91" flanges, 3.07" webs, and 215 sq in cross sections, so bring along plenty of your magical whatever. Harrit & Jones claim it was painted on, so I'd suggest more than just one or two coats.
I don't block people in my videos, not even the most retarded. I only block people who post spam comments that ask people to visit obscure "win easy money" websites. What I know about the Chechnya building doesn't change is what is accepted about Building 7. B7 collapsed far too quickly and symmetrically to have been the result of dispersed, randomized damage from debris and fires. Random damage should create random buckling, deterioration. But what do we get: collapse in seconds, symmetrical
Be sure to block me when you remove my comment; it's what the 9/11 "truth movement" does best.
You can remove all of the comments you want, but it won't alter the fact that the Grozny fire was in a vacant building still under construction, and the bulk of the fuel was combustible thermal insulation on the exterior. It's very obvious just from the photos that there were not major fires spreading across the interior, and that just the outer walls were burning. You don't have the structural details of the Grozny bldg, so it's extremely foolish to compare it to the vulnerabilities in WTC 7
Don't fucking spam me ever again.
Don't fucking spam me ever again.
thanks pal
well said
I don't see it leaning in any of the footage, but even if that was the case, a 20 story hole in a building, with scattered fires, should not by physics or logic cause an entire structure to coming rushing down so smoothly. We're talking about 25 thick, rigid core columns that jut into the sky through the inner building. For those to literally disappear as building crumbles at near free fall speed, would mean a widespread, clean and simultaneous level of inner destruction, more than debris/fires.
Yes, one was hit by debris. Debris don't make 25 core columns simultaneously sever to cause a near free fall collapse, almost entirely into its own footprint, without significant prior buckling from one side to the other, which WOULD be the case if there was natural, scattered damage as a result of debris and fires of varying intensities ranging in various areas. The building feel consistently and instantly, as a result of consistent and instant damage, probably from controlled demolition.
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I bet you are old enough to know there is something called Newton Laws. Google it
Here's a Junior experiment for ya
Pick up a Hammer with 10% the weight of a Nail.This represent the top part of the structure over the impact point.Cut a slot in the Nail 15% of the surface area,representing the hole.Then heat the Nail until it's is60% to melting point.This represents one of the steel beams.HIT IT WITH THE HAMMER!Send me a message if it Implodes into Dust/Scatters horizontally/becomes a pile of rubble.Then try it out with 47Nails at the same time,representing all steel beams
2 Different planes with two different amounts of fuel impacting the towers in two different angels/hights pulverizes the Towers in the exact same manner in the same amount of time,in a way never seen before in the history of construction except in demolition.After that,another Tower collapses in the same way without any plane hitting it in 5 Hours.All towers owned by the same man who got 12Billion in insurance Yet history is packed with skyscrapers like this burning for days with no collapse.
the roofline drops evenly symmetrically – and gravitational acceleration means zero resistance – means that nothing hit anything under the roofline for 8 floors – this contradicts newton's third law and the law of conservation of momentum – the only way this roofline of wtc7 could accelerate unimpeded thru the building below is by removing all the support at the same time – fire could never do this – impossible – laws of physics cannot lie – deal with it and learn them
freefall acceleration ( an increase in velocity ) speed is constant
a picture on this page will show the hole in the side of 7WTC – it comes from the site "debunking 9/11" – go look for yourself. or better yet just google it. hell Im almost willing to bet that you weren't even old enough to remember the events of that day.
prove this
try reality. 7WTC was severely damaged by debris hitting it from the TOWERS falling. 7 also had a huge 20 story hole in it from the debris impact, began to lean until it collapsed at 1720hrs on 9/11/01
you need to add steel to the concrete to give it support.
you forgot to add 3 glaringly obvious FACTS in trying to make this a comparison to 7WTC.
1) 7WTC WAS HIT BY DEBRIS FROM THE OTHER 2 BUILDINGS OF THE WTC COMPLEX
2) THE BUILDING IN CHECHNYA WAS NEVER HIT BY DEBRIS
3) 2 TOTALLY DIFFERENT STRUCTURES – BOTH WERE NOT BUILT THE SAME WAY.
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