The third in A Three-part Presentation “The Case for a New Building 7 Investigation” Introduction by Dr. William Pepper investigatebuilding7.org This present…
September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible,
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, US Marine Corps (ret.)
You`re right..so i took down that comment.
..i see it now , a bunch of arabs outwiited the NSA FBI CIA NORAD AND CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON..seems plausible to me.
Oh my….
Fair enough Tom ,you are right..i lowered myself with that comment..so i took it off.
I will put it this way ,if the official fairy tale is true,then why do people like Moir even bother to address the truth movement.?.we are all all nuts right? So why bother in the first place?I mean some people believe in unicorns but i dont see their forums inundated with debunkers..You believe the official story ,fine..move along..some of us dont.
And you aren't a scientist either and yet you think you have the answers. At leat Mohr has interviewed many scientists and come up with conclusions that are worth considering. Glad you came up with a logical argument to dispute his claims with more than calling him a dick.
chrismohr911 has some great scientific evidence about WTC 1, 2 and 7.
Watch the entire series here on youtube. I was somewhat of a WTC truther after watching a few videos, but this serious of videos will help you to see the other side, watch it with an open mind and see for yourself.
recent history, are you? young? you will forget. all they have to do is say lets move on, people forget and people move on,young people born, never cqareing
The NIST report acknowledged 2.25 seconds or 25 meters of free fall acceleration because David Chandler and others called them on it at the public meeting. Dr. Sunder is a Brahmin, a member of the priestly and intellectual caste of India. He will support the official story but will not tell a bald lie. Before Dr. Sunder acknowledged free fall, he explained why it could not happen (without a CD). Since NIST acknowledged free fall, he and NIST have not discussed its implications.
NIST's admission of free-fall ( which they had previously said could not happen because it required the building to have 'no structural components below it' ) indicates their belief that the IMPOSSIBLE had occurred – an invisible 'inferno' makes a building free-fall – with no force other than gravity acting on the super structure, for 100 feet – NIST have been paid to lie – and those responsible should be on trial
The lying rat Giuliani Knight Of Malta like Bush – knew the towers were coming down when no one else did – peter jennings interview – and he also knew that wtc7 was coming down – and all foreknowledge of its 'colllapse' from fire came from his office
Thanks, Tony for hollowing out the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory, Prof. Ray Griffin) in the hope that the shell of TWoT (The War on Ter.) our MICC (Mil.Ind. Cong. Complex) has created will "collapse" like 7WTC. NIST lies and obfuscates like W does about what he knew and when unless Cheney holds his hand. Fraud was perpetrated on the U.S. on election day to get a Fraud Pres. Fraud on Sept. 11, '01 was used to get us into Fraud War, a military contractors wet dream & prayer (war w/out end amen).
The "proof" is the damage graphic on page 183 of the final report on WTC 7 that I posted. It shows the actual damage. The 10 story gouge, floor 10 to the ground and the 20+ story gash in the video you posted are not there because NIST determined that they did not exist.
Unproven TV fakery claims again… Not only this video but also various images from photographers on the ground and aerial shots show this gap at the south side. Please provide me a proof or at least a clue of tampering. Some people do very easily by decrying irrefutable visual evidence as fake without any proof, of course.
@MrKoenig1985
The debris damage is shown in a graphic on pg 183 of the final report. The video with the 20+ story gash is a fraud.
h**p://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8030/debrisdamage[dot]jpg
@realcddeal
NCSTAR 1A Pg xxxvii [pdf pg 39]
"Other than initiating the fires in WTC 7, the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7."
You're talking about the small pedestrian bridge near the southeast corner. The broader promenade near the southwest corner and above the loading docks has suffered much more damage by falling perimeter sections from WTC1 and was, I believe, partially collapsed.
Shyam Sunder told PM magazine in the so called "debunking" article that there was a huge gouge, 1/4 to 1/3 the width and floor 10 to the ground. He stated it as if it were a fact when it was not. In other words, he lied. The debunking article was itself bunk. The final report shows the debris damage on page 183 and the 10 story gouge, floor 10 to the ground, is not there. Sunder also lied about there being a fire on floor 5 that lasted up to 7 hours. There was no fire on floor 5.
You are correct that the photo on the right in the slide at 10:27 is after WTC 2 collapsed but before WTC 1 did so. I updated the slide show to show the pedestrian bridge after WTC 1 collapsed. However, the bridge, while a little more bruised, is still there nearly fully intact with just damage to its glass top. So the point still stands that the debris damage to WTC 7 could not have been great as the bridge was not nearly as robust structurally as the building itself.
10:27
Mistake:
The right image shows Vesey Street and south face of B7 after the first collapse and before the North Tower destruction. After the WTC1 fall there were much more debris on the street and B7 was more heavily damaged at bottom floors.
So much for the demolition industry…all we need to do now is start a few small fires on a couple of floors in any doomed building and whallah…..a tidy little pile of rubble is produced.
September 11, 2001 seems destined to be the watershed event of our lives and the greatest test for our democracy in our lifetimes. The evidence of government complicity in the lead-up to the events, the failure to respond during the event, and the astounding lack of any meaningful investigation afterwards, as well as the ignoring of evidence turned up by others that renders the official explanation impossible,
Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, US Marine Corps (ret.)
You`re right..so i took down that comment.
..i see it now , a bunch of arabs outwiited the NSA FBI CIA NORAD AND CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON..seems plausible to me.
Oh my….
Only a few more million to go…
Fair enough Tom ,you are right..i lowered myself with that comment..so i took it off.
I will put it this way ,if the official fairy tale is true,then why do people like Moir even bother to address the truth movement.?.we are all all nuts right? So why bother in the first place?I mean some people believe in unicorns but i dont see their forums inundated with debunkers..You believe the official story ,fine..move along..some of us dont.
And you aren't a scientist either and yet you think you have the answers. At leat Mohr has interviewed many scientists and come up with conclusions that are worth considering. Glad you came up with a logical argument to dispute his claims with more than calling him a dick.
chrismohr911 has some great scientific evidence about WTC 1, 2 and 7.
Watch the entire series here on youtube. I was somewhat of a WTC truther after watching a few videos, but this serious of videos will help you to see the other side, watch it with an open mind and see for yourself.
No no. You are the moron mate. What a shithead you are to buy the Arab blood libel.
recent history, are you? young? you will forget. all they have to do is say lets move on, people forget and people move on,young people born, never cqareing
No, douche, you are the retard-OJ won!
We know Bush is Skull and Bones but why do you say he is a Knight of Malta?
Dr. Pepper ha!
A year late, but thanks.
The NIST report acknowledged 2.25 seconds or 25 meters of free fall acceleration because David Chandler and others called them on it at the public meeting. Dr. Sunder is a Brahmin, a member of the priestly and intellectual caste of India. He will support the official story but will not tell a bald lie. Before Dr. Sunder acknowledged free fall, he explained why it could not happen (without a CD). Since NIST acknowledged free fall, he and NIST have not discussed its implications.
Can we get this guy to analyze the first two collapses in the same manner?
Please Please Please watch on YT:
"Republic of Missouri, the Change our Founders believed in" ASAP!
NIST's admission of free-fall ( which they had previously said could not happen because it required the building to have 'no structural components below it' ) indicates their belief that the IMPOSSIBLE had occurred – an invisible 'inferno' makes a building free-fall – with no force other than gravity acting on the super structure, for 100 feet – NIST have been paid to lie – and those responsible should be on trial
The lying rat Giuliani Knight Of Malta like Bush – knew the towers were coming down when no one else did – peter jennings interview – and he also knew that wtc7 was coming down – and all foreknowledge of its 'colllapse' from fire came from his office
The video fram is frozen. I can only see the north view of the building. I only have audio. Hmm??
Thanks, Tony for hollowing out the OCT (Official Conspiracy Theory, Prof. Ray Griffin) in the hope that the shell of TWoT (The War on Ter.) our MICC (Mil.Ind. Cong. Complex) has created will "collapse" like 7WTC. NIST lies and obfuscates like W does about what he knew and when unless Cheney holds his hand. Fraud was perpetrated on the U.S. on election day to get a Fraud Pres. Fraud on Sept. 11, '01 was used to get us into Fraud War, a military contractors wet dream & prayer (war w/out end amen).
The "proof" is the damage graphic on page 183 of the final report on WTC 7 that I posted. It shows the actual damage. The 10 story gouge, floor 10 to the ground and the 20+ story gash in the video you posted are not there because NIST determined that they did not exist.
Unproven TV fakery claims again… Not only this video but also various images from photographers on the ground and aerial shots show this gap at the south side. Please provide me a proof or at least a clue of tampering. Some people do very easily by decrying irrefutable visual evidence as fake without any proof, of course.
@MrKoenig1985
The debris damage is shown in a graphic on pg 183 of the final report. The video with the 20+ story gash is a fraud.
h**p://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8030/debrisdamage[dot]jpg
@realcddeal
NCSTAR 1A Pg xxxvii [pdf pg 39]
"Other than initiating the fires in WTC 7, the damage from the debris from WTC 1 had little effect on initiating the collapse of WTC 7."
You're talking about the small pedestrian bridge near the southeast corner. The broader promenade near the southwest corner and above the loading docks has suffered much more damage by falling perimeter sections from WTC1 and was, I believe, partially collapsed.
Excuse me but there was a vertical gap between columns #19 and #20, along many floors. Images and videos confirm this.
watch?v=RfhA_XsYUbk
I don't know how deep it was and how it was created, by falling debris from tower one or by something other.
Shyam Sunder told PM magazine in the so called "debunking" article that there was a huge gouge, 1/4 to 1/3 the width and floor 10 to the ground. He stated it as if it were a fact when it was not. In other words, he lied. The debunking article was itself bunk. The final report shows the debris damage on page 183 and the 10 story gouge, floor 10 to the ground, is not there. Sunder also lied about there being a fire on floor 5 that lasted up to 7 hours. There was no fire on floor 5.
You are correct that the photo on the right in the slide at 10:27 is after WTC 2 collapsed but before WTC 1 did so. I updated the slide show to show the pedestrian bridge after WTC 1 collapsed. However, the bridge, while a little more bruised, is still there nearly fully intact with just damage to its glass top. So the point still stands that the debris damage to WTC 7 could not have been great as the bridge was not nearly as robust structurally as the building itself.
10:27
Mistake:
The right image shows Vesey Street and south face of B7 after the first collapse and before the North Tower destruction. After the WTC1 fall there were much more debris on the street and B7 was more heavily damaged at bottom floors.
So much for the demolition industry…all we need to do now is start a few small fires on a couple of floors in any doomed building and whallah…..a tidy little pile of rubble is produced.
Tony Szamboti is a true patriot