November 01 2013, in front of the White House, no violence, just signs voicing ourselves, if they use violence they are just exposing their evil and proving to Americans they do not care about their people and do not listen to their concerns. BE THERE….. copy paste this message EVERYWHERE… THIS WILL BE A HUGE EVENT, THIS IS OUR TIME TO VOICE OURSELVES
Yes, maybe one day we will. I can't really see the reason to keep this discussion going either. There are too many questions surrounding this horrible event to even begin answering them with the limited amount of information available.
sorry I still haven't answered your questions…I don't know why the events unfolded the way they did…maybe one day we will know the truth…this will be my last entry…RIP all the victims of 9/11 and all the casualties of war…now I might go and smell some flowers
And I just want to say this. Until someone who actually knows what they're talking about presents som hard evidence in any of these matters, the conspiracy theories will remain just that – conspiracy theories. There are countless of them and most of them are just plainly ridiculous. In my mind, someone who uses youtube as their primary means of publishing is not a reliable source of info on stuff like this. Not even if they write "PROOF" in caps in the title of the video.
I agree that the hole in the side of The Pentagon looks weird when you first look at it, but I've seen comparisons where they marked out the damage on the building and filled it in with and airplane and it actually made sense. The fire and the collaps of a portion of the outer part of the building makes it hard to see but it's there. Again, both of us would have to had been there to know for sure what the place really looked like. It's hard to tell from most of the pictures.
I've seen pictures of the engines of flight 93. They had to dig them out of the ground. The plane was deliberately flown almost straight into the ground. That kind of impact would have pulverized most of the fuselage. But there are pictures of debris. Even from The Pentagon. You could always argue about the authenticity of these pictures but that is a two way game. There's no way for anyone of us to prove that a picture is either fake or not fake.
the impact crater on the pentagon does not match damage caused by a large plane, the most secure building in the world took some pathetic footage of something not recognisable…and the most secure airspace in the world let a large and clumsy aircraft hit it, and it took one hour to do so…this is the year 2001, early warning everything, jet fighters bristling with technology, America has the most advanced defence system on their own homeland for sure…the whole thing does not add up
I can't answer why building 7 went down, nor the lack of plane crash debris when flight 93 went down, the engines on these planes are both large and very solid, but nowhere in sight, even the long shaped 'said to be' crash crater can be seen on mapping photos taken years earlier
then flight 77, this is another can of worms, no grass damage can be seen near the crash, the downward air turbulence caused by a low flying fast moving large aircraft would be of hurricane strength, and again, no plane
Regarding the towers again; "[Leslie Robertson:] I support the general conclusions of the NIST report… The [WTC] was designed for the impact of a low flying slow flying Boeing 707. We envisioned it [to be like] the aircraft that struck the Empire State building [during] WW II. It was not designed for a high speed impact from the jets that actually hit it…" In case you didn't know, Leslie Robertson is the guy who actually built the things. I think he'd know.
Sure. But what doesn't add up to me is why someone would even want to bring building 7 down to start with. Just as I can't figure out why they'd crash flight 93 in a field in the middle of nowhere. Hardly anybody saw it or knew about it until hours later. And why hijack flight 77 if you're gonna replace it with a mysterious missile anyway? Why do any of this. As I said before, the whole thing cost the US gov. hundreds of billions of dollars. The ensuing wars even more. Doesn't make any sense.
I live in a good country have a successful business and actually enjoy life, and I don't do any drugs or glue sniffing…I'm not going to lose any sleep over this video because 9/11 hasn't affected me in any way…actually it has, this happens to be my birthday 🙁
but what really surprises me is the lack of interest in one of the most important event in modern history.
I had a look at the survey, CESP building, MGM grand hotel 1980 fire, Alexis Nihon plaza, One New York plaza, some sustained partial callapse, some no collapse at all, and these building had big fires raging inside, the only buildings with total collapse were the 9/11 buildings, also read that the sprinkler system on building 7 mysteriously didn't work, which on its own is very unusual, building 7 had some small isolated fires which caused total and sudden collapse, this just doesn't add up
You actually got me there with the definition of a "terrorist". However, calling the talibans "some Arabs in a cave" shows your inability to even think about what is happening outside the 30" or so that make up your computer screen. A lot of the Al-qaida leaders (including Bin Laden) were originally trained by the CIA. They probably knew what they were up against and they acted accordingly. There's a clear trail of evidence leading all the way back to how they picked out the targets.
By even using the word "terrorist" to describe any identifiable phenomenon coming from a traceable organizations with a supposed mandate to cause "terror" shows your inability to even think about what is happening in this world. Of course it was a "terrorist" attack! The question is who the terrorists are. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist and accept that some Arabs in a cave deviously and secretively hatched this ingenious scheme, that is your prerogative.
It's disturbing how hung up some of these people are on their fantasy picture of what they actually seem to wish happened. Of course we're not getting the full story! Since when does the people recieve the full story of what happens behind the scenes at a thing like this? It's naive to expect a government to tell people exactly what they knew beforehand and what they could have done to stop it. Intelligence doesn't work that way. The whole thing still smells like a terrorist attack though…
I just can't bring myself to believe in stories like that. There are too many stories that tell nothing about the mysterious explosions for me to blindly believe the few that do. The whole thing makes no sense. Why the pentagon thing? Why crash flight 93 in a field in the middle of fucking nowhere? Why even demolish wtc? The planes would have been enough to shift public opinion towards war anyway. 9/11 cost the US gov. hundreds of billions of dollars. Not even Bush is that fucking retarded.
Your point is intelligent and important. The important point is that we don't know what happened.
If you are reasonable enough to make the above point, then you must also be reasonable enough to see that the story we are fed is not the whole story, and quite possibly not even a true story.
all the major governments, America, Russia, China, even the not so major ones Israel, Nth Korea, Iran etc are playing a power chess game that we are not aware of, this will determine the positioning in the pecking order and who will be in control in 10. 20, 50yrs from now…unfortunately, innocent people die because of power/greed/evil people will stop at nothing to achieve their goal, including killing their own citizens, 9/11 is another pearl harbor and it won't be the last…
I don't work in demolition so I have no idea how long it would take, all I know is something besides fire brought those building down to a fine dust. The WTC janitor as well as dozens of firefighters reported hearing, seeing, and feeling multiple explosions on the GROUND LEVEL floors. So you believe 100% in the 9/11 commission report and thats that hugh? Just eat it up.
No ive never heard of fire…You think a few small fires in a 47 story building would melt steel re-bard and bring it down..? Didn't the Windsor Tower in Madrid burn for close to 24 HOURS yet was still standing…? Why didn't that building collapse at free fall. Show me a buidling collapse at free fall before 9/11 or even after. Come on man fire cannot demolish a building.
Apparently it did. You call it pancake effect, I say banana peal effect. When the steel beams no longer had anything to hold together, because of the tremendous weight of the upper floors falling to the ground, pressing everything down and out, where do they go? They fall with the rest. You should really study to become a demolitions expert. Then, maybe, one day you can prove your points for real. But I promise, you won't find the answer on youtube, studying low def videos of a collapsing tower.
see my reply ^^ …but will add, if you know the strength of these thick steel upright beams, there is no way this building would fall so quickly…pancake effect, I've seen plenty of them in a cartoon 🙂
I would like to see these to do a bit of research, can you name these buildings, lets forget about the twin towers for a minute, my logic tells me that building 7 with very little damage and a couple of small fires should have never collapsed at all, but the way it did would be impossible in the real world…it went straight down, how can you explain that?
Oh, my apologies. Edit: "Except for that one time, out of thousands upon thousands of demolitions, the botched implosion of the Royal Canberra Hospital in 1997."
Why would the towers of the wtc tumble over to one side when the damage was in the top portion of the buildings? Between 1970 and 2002 there are 22 cases of multi-story buildings collapsing partly or completely due to fire. 6 of those were buildings structured simarly to the wtc towers with structural steel and reinforced concrete. I could list all of them but I don't have enought characters to do so. But I can say that none of them seem to have toppled over like in a cartoon, like you expected.
what!!…a girl died watching a demolition hit by flying debris and she was long way away, this was all over the news not all that long ago…explosives can be unpredictable
there has never been a steel framed building that disintegrated a la 9/11 style… ever…they may tumble to one side, or even buckle over, but never disappear into a pile of dust and large steel pylons nowhere to be seen…Andreas, can you mention of another case similar to this which I'm not aware of…
I get shivers up my spine reading all the comments from delusional people talking about controlled demolitions and remote controlled airliners. I can only imagine how sick those people must be to believe things like that. You don’t simply wire two 110 story skyscrapers with demolitions equpment in a week without people noticing. It’s science fiction on a high level and I hope you guys seek help. You’re being brainwashed by people who start rumors like this to feel important and be famous.
Do you have any kind of idea how much work goes into wiring a building for demolition? They'd have to drill holes and insert explosives in hundreds of locations on each of the 110 floors of the buildings. They'd then have to wire all the explosives on a sequence to make them go off on the exact right fraction of a second. There would have to be so much wiring and work done on the towers, it would have taken many months and been more than obvious to everyone who works there. I hope you seek help.
If you'd just try to muster up enough intelligence somehow you'd realise that wiring a 10 story building for demolition takes weeks if not months. Wiring not one but two 110 story skyscrapers would be such a huge undertaking it's not even realistic. It could _never_ be done in one week, especially not if you only work for two hours a day. That's not even enough time to get all the equipment ready to even enter the building and start working. Your are truly delusional buddy.
A building like that isn't built like a solid brick. The parts of the towers that were above the impact zone fell on top of the bottom part smashing into one floor at a time. For every floor that fell down on top of the one beneath it the weight was increased and a snowball type effect occured. It's not so hard to understand really. Gravity is what made the towers fall _almost_ into their own footprints (the collapses weren't nearly as clean as a typical controlled demolition).
"She was released in 2006 and all charges were dropped in 2009". Sounds fishy to me. One day she is crazy then the next she is released and all charges are droped. Sounds like someone fkd up.
Why would it not matter? It didn't matter as far as the war but a 47 story building free falling for no reason…I would say that matters. What im saying is How did it fall? nothing big enough "hit" that building yet it collapsed at free fall, explain that. Everyone now knows it was one of CIA's largest headquarters and housed IRS among many things.
"Susan Lindauer (born 17 July 1963) is an American journalist and antiwar activist. In 2003 she was accused of conspiring to act as an unregistered agent for the Iraqi Intelligence Service and engaging in prohibited financial transactions with the government of Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Lindauer was found mentally unfit to stand trial in two separate hearings." (I'm not making it up, honest)
7. Doesn't. Matter! Are you saying they used 7 as part of the excuse for war?? WTC 1 & 2 and the Pentagon weren't enough reason to go to war? 3,000 dead wasn't good enough? An empty freakin building had to fall 8 hours later, injuring no one, in order to make the case for war? There was no reason for any trickery there or anywhere else that day.
Actually someone did see something and did talk thats why we are talking about it. Also Lindauer was NOT a journalist, she was a CIA Asset who was NOT found "Mentally Unfit" otherwise she would be locked up and doped up right now and what "Crimes" are you referring to? Sounds like you need to stop with the BS. Maybe your right about the 24/7 security but im sure they found plenty of ways around it. If there were no "BOMBS" how did 7 fall? Fire…? Get the hell out of here B769
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November 01 2013, in front of the White House, no violence, just signs voicing ourselves, if they use violence they are just exposing their evil and proving to Americans they do not care about their people and do not listen to their concerns. BE THERE….. copy paste this message EVERYWHERE… THIS WILL BE A HUGE EVENT, THIS IS OUR TIME TO VOICE OURSELVES
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Yes, maybe one day we will. I can't really see the reason to keep this discussion going either. There are too many questions surrounding this horrible event to even begin answering them with the limited amount of information available.
sorry I still haven't answered your questions…I don't know why the events unfolded the way they did…maybe one day we will know the truth…this will be my last entry…RIP all the victims of 9/11 and all the casualties of war…now I might go and smell some flowers
And I just want to say this. Until someone who actually knows what they're talking about presents som hard evidence in any of these matters, the conspiracy theories will remain just that – conspiracy theories. There are countless of them and most of them are just plainly ridiculous. In my mind, someone who uses youtube as their primary means of publishing is not a reliable source of info on stuff like this. Not even if they write "PROOF" in caps in the title of the video.
I agree that the hole in the side of The Pentagon looks weird when you first look at it, but I've seen comparisons where they marked out the damage on the building and filled it in with and airplane and it actually made sense. The fire and the collaps of a portion of the outer part of the building makes it hard to see but it's there. Again, both of us would have to had been there to know for sure what the place really looked like. It's hard to tell from most of the pictures.
I've seen pictures of the engines of flight 93. They had to dig them out of the ground. The plane was deliberately flown almost straight into the ground. That kind of impact would have pulverized most of the fuselage. But there are pictures of debris. Even from The Pentagon. You could always argue about the authenticity of these pictures but that is a two way game. There's no way for anyone of us to prove that a picture is either fake or not fake.
the impact crater on the pentagon does not match damage caused by a large plane, the most secure building in the world took some pathetic footage of something not recognisable…and the most secure airspace in the world let a large and clumsy aircraft hit it, and it took one hour to do so…this is the year 2001, early warning everything, jet fighters bristling with technology, America has the most advanced defence system on their own homeland for sure…the whole thing does not add up
I can't answer why building 7 went down, nor the lack of plane crash debris when flight 93 went down, the engines on these planes are both large and very solid, but nowhere in sight, even the long shaped 'said to be' crash crater can be seen on mapping photos taken years earlier
then flight 77, this is another can of worms, no grass damage can be seen near the crash, the downward air turbulence caused by a low flying fast moving large aircraft would be of hurricane strength, and again, no plane
Regarding the towers again; "[Leslie Robertson:] I support the general conclusions of the NIST report… The [WTC] was designed for the impact of a low flying slow flying Boeing 707. We envisioned it [to be like] the aircraft that struck the Empire State building [during] WW II. It was not designed for a high speed impact from the jets that actually hit it…" In case you didn't know, Leslie Robertson is the guy who actually built the things. I think he'd know.
Sure. But what doesn't add up to me is why someone would even want to bring building 7 down to start with. Just as I can't figure out why they'd crash flight 93 in a field in the middle of nowhere. Hardly anybody saw it or knew about it until hours later. And why hijack flight 77 if you're gonna replace it with a mysterious missile anyway? Why do any of this. As I said before, the whole thing cost the US gov. hundreds of billions of dollars. The ensuing wars even more. Doesn't make any sense.
I live in a good country have a successful business and actually enjoy life, and I don't do any drugs or glue sniffing…I'm not going to lose any sleep over this video because 9/11 hasn't affected me in any way…actually it has, this happens to be my birthday 🙁
but what really surprises me is the lack of interest in one of the most important event in modern history.
Another totally shite conspiracy theory video. Get a life, do something useful, give up sniffing glue, get out more and enjoy life
I had a look at the survey, CESP building, MGM grand hotel 1980 fire, Alexis Nihon plaza, One New York plaza, some sustained partial callapse, some no collapse at all, and these building had big fires raging inside, the only buildings with total collapse were the 9/11 buildings, also read that the sprinkler system on building 7 mysteriously didn't work, which on its own is very unusual, building 7 had some small isolated fires which caused total and sudden collapse, this just doesn't add up
You actually got me there with the definition of a "terrorist". However, calling the talibans "some Arabs in a cave" shows your inability to even think about what is happening outside the 30" or so that make up your computer screen. A lot of the Al-qaida leaders (including Bin Laden) were originally trained by the CIA. They probably knew what they were up against and they acted accordingly. There's a clear trail of evidence leading all the way back to how they picked out the targets.
By even using the word "terrorist" to describe any identifiable phenomenon coming from a traceable organizations with a supposed mandate to cause "terror" shows your inability to even think about what is happening in this world. Of course it was a "terrorist" attack! The question is who the terrorists are. If you want to be a conspiracy theorist and accept that some Arabs in a cave deviously and secretively hatched this ingenious scheme, that is your prerogative.
Just sent you a survey.
It's disturbing how hung up some of these people are on their fantasy picture of what they actually seem to wish happened. Of course we're not getting the full story! Since when does the people recieve the full story of what happens behind the scenes at a thing like this? It's naive to expect a government to tell people exactly what they knew beforehand and what they could have done to stop it. Intelligence doesn't work that way. The whole thing still smells like a terrorist attack though…
I just can't bring myself to believe in stories like that. There are too many stories that tell nothing about the mysterious explosions for me to blindly believe the few that do. The whole thing makes no sense. Why the pentagon thing? Why crash flight 93 in a field in the middle of fucking nowhere? Why even demolish wtc? The planes would have been enough to shift public opinion towards war anyway. 9/11 cost the US gov. hundreds of billions of dollars. Not even Bush is that fucking retarded.
Your point is intelligent and important. The important point is that we don't know what happened.
If you are reasonable enough to make the above point, then you must also be reasonable enough to see that the story we are fed is not the whole story, and quite possibly not even a true story.
all the major governments, America, Russia, China, even the not so major ones Israel, Nth Korea, Iran etc are playing a power chess game that we are not aware of, this will determine the positioning in the pecking order and who will be in control in 10. 20, 50yrs from now…unfortunately, innocent people die because of power/greed/evil people will stop at nothing to achieve their goal, including killing their own citizens, 9/11 is another pearl harbor and it won't be the last…
I don't work in demolition so I have no idea how long it would take, all I know is something besides fire brought those building down to a fine dust. The WTC janitor as well as dozens of firefighters reported hearing, seeing, and feeling multiple explosions on the GROUND LEVEL floors. So you believe 100% in the 9/11 commission report and thats that hugh? Just eat it up.
No ive never heard of fire…You think a few small fires in a 47 story building would melt steel re-bard and bring it down..? Didn't the Windsor Tower in Madrid burn for close to 24 HOURS yet was still standing…? Why didn't that building collapse at free fall. Show me a buidling collapse at free fall before 9/11 or even after. Come on man fire cannot demolish a building.
Excellent video, def going into my favs. Thank you for your time in putting it together, it is truly appreciated.
Apparently it did. You call it pancake effect, I say banana peal effect. When the steel beams no longer had anything to hold together, because of the tremendous weight of the upper floors falling to the ground, pressing everything down and out, where do they go? They fall with the rest. You should really study to become a demolitions expert. Then, maybe, one day you can prove your points for real. But I promise, you won't find the answer on youtube, studying low def videos of a collapsing tower.
see my reply ^^ …but will add, if you know the strength of these thick steel upright beams, there is no way this building would fall so quickly…pancake effect, I've seen plenty of them in a cartoon 🙂
I would like to see these to do a bit of research, can you name these buildings, lets forget about the twin towers for a minute, my logic tells me that building 7 with very little damage and a couple of small fires should have never collapsed at all, but the way it did would be impossible in the real world…it went straight down, how can you explain that?
Oh, my apologies. Edit: "Except for that one time, out of thousands upon thousands of demolitions, the botched implosion of the Royal Canberra Hospital in 1997."
Why would the towers of the wtc tumble over to one side when the damage was in the top portion of the buildings? Between 1970 and 2002 there are 22 cases of multi-story buildings collapsing partly or completely due to fire. 6 of those were buildings structured simarly to the wtc towers with structural steel and reinforced concrete. I could list all of them but I don't have enought characters to do so. But I can say that none of them seem to have toppled over like in a cartoon, like you expected.
what!!…a girl died watching a demolition hit by flying debris and she was long way away, this was all over the news not all that long ago…explosives can be unpredictable
there has never been a steel framed building that disintegrated a la 9/11 style… ever…they may tumble to one side, or even buckle over, but never disappear into a pile of dust and large steel pylons nowhere to be seen…Andreas, can you mention of another case similar to this which I'm not aware of…
Another excellent point, you don't really see debris flying outward and landing several hundred feet away during a controlled demolition.
I get shivers up my spine reading all the comments from delusional people talking about controlled demolitions and remote controlled airliners. I can only imagine how sick those people must be to believe things like that. You don’t simply wire two 110 story skyscrapers with demolitions equpment in a week without people noticing. It’s science fiction on a high level and I hope you guys seek help. You’re being brainwashed by people who start rumors like this to feel important and be famous.
Do you have any kind of idea how much work goes into wiring a building for demolition? They'd have to drill holes and insert explosives in hundreds of locations on each of the 110 floors of the buildings. They'd then have to wire all the explosives on a sequence to make them go off on the exact right fraction of a second. There would have to be so much wiring and work done on the towers, it would have taken many months and been more than obvious to everyone who works there. I hope you seek help.
If you'd just try to muster up enough intelligence somehow you'd realise that wiring a 10 story building for demolition takes weeks if not months. Wiring not one but two 110 story skyscrapers would be such a huge undertaking it's not even realistic. It could _never_ be done in one week, especially not if you only work for two hours a day. That's not even enough time to get all the equipment ready to even enter the building and start working. Your are truly delusional buddy.
A building like that isn't built like a solid brick. The parts of the towers that were above the impact zone fell on top of the bottom part smashing into one floor at a time. For every floor that fell down on top of the one beneath it the weight was increased and a snowball type effect occured. It's not so hard to understand really. Gravity is what made the towers fall _almost_ into their own footprints (the collapses weren't nearly as clean as a typical controlled demolition).
Have you ever heard of fire before? Fire can bring large buildings down and has done so many times before 9/11.
"She was released in 2006 and all charges were dropped in 2009". Sounds fishy to me. One day she is crazy then the next she is released and all charges are droped. Sounds like someone fkd up.
Why would it not matter? It didn't matter as far as the war but a 47 story building free falling for no reason…I would say that matters. What im saying is How did it fall? nothing big enough "hit" that building yet it collapsed at free fall, explain that. Everyone now knows it was one of CIA's largest headquarters and housed IRS among many things.
"Susan Lindauer (born 17 July 1963) is an American journalist and antiwar activist. In 2003 she was accused of conspiring to act as an unregistered agent for the Iraqi Intelligence Service and engaging in prohibited financial transactions with the government of Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Lindauer was found mentally unfit to stand trial in two separate hearings." (I'm not making it up, honest)
7. Doesn't. Matter! Are you saying they used 7 as part of the excuse for war?? WTC 1 & 2 and the Pentagon weren't enough reason to go to war? 3,000 dead wasn't good enough? An empty freakin building had to fall 8 hours later, injuring no one, in order to make the case for war? There was no reason for any trickery there or anywhere else that day.
Actually someone did see something and did talk thats why we are talking about it. Also Lindauer was NOT a journalist, she was a CIA Asset who was NOT found "Mentally Unfit" otherwise she would be locked up and doped up right now and what "Crimes" are you referring to? Sounds like you need to stop with the BS. Maybe your right about the 24/7 security but im sure they found plenty of ways around it. If there were no "BOMBS" how did 7 fall? Fire…? Get the hell out of here B769