Federal Reserve, Not Free Market, Caused Crisis says “Money for Nothing” Filmmaker Jim Bruce

“I view one of the big myths of the [2007-08 financial] crisis as that it was purely the effect of free markets, that this is what happens when you have free…


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  1. The Fed isn’t trying to ‘learn’ lessons to make things better. They’re
    continually trying to bilk Americans and make profit. It’s a private,
    for-profit business w/a government contract.

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  2. WATCH: A look at the current Fed policy, incoming Fed Chair Janet Yellen,
    the legacy of alleged free marketeer Alan Greenspan, and the future of the
    U.S. economy and monetary system.

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  3. The idea of taming the Fed is a nonsense. In any case, the idea of some
    body (probably government) seizing control of it in order to force it to do
    what they want flies in the face of Libertarian principles as the Fed is a
    private bank. Just end it and allow the principles of genuine liberty and
    minimal government rise from the ashes of any collapse. Times will be
    tough and there won’t be any benefit system but mankind adapts.

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  4. *”I view one of the big myths of the [2007-08 financial] crisis as that it
    was purely the effect of free markets, that this is what happens when you
    have free markets,” says Jim Bruce, filmmaker behind the new documentary
    “Money for Nothing: Inside the Federal Reserve.”*

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  5. Nonsense. The crash was caused by Clinton pressuring lower lending
    standards on subprime loans — thus making junk mortgages as safer
    investment than Google.
    The stock market is NOT owned by some small segment of the super-rich.
    Pension fund assets are greater than the entire New York Stock Exchange
    and 90% of NYSE and NASDAQ combined.

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  6. There are good arguments that the financial system would not have collapsed
    if the Feds failed to bail out the banks in 2008/9. What definitely would
    have collapsed were the big four privately owned banks and the extremely
    wealthy investment class (who put their money at great risk). Instead the
    Fed pushed the investment classes debt onto the backs of the US taxpayer
    (people paying taxes while making <$25 an hour). 

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  7. The Fed didn’t fix anything by printing a bunch of money and giving it to
    the super rich, all they did was delay and severely worsen the inevitable
    collapse of the U.S. dollar.

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  8. I haven’t watched the film, but I think we have not gotten out of the
    current depression. The current standard for a recession/recovery is three
    quarters of decreasing/increasing GDP, however, if there is no increase in
    employment, there is no recovery. Bottom line, there is no such thing as a
    jobless recovery. The unemployment rate is lowering now because people
    have left the market and not because of job creation. This recovery is a
    myth.

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  9. Wall Street firms [conduits] demanded exotic [read: questionable] loan
    products for securitization and eventual sale to pension funds– the
    majority of questionable mortgages were written by mortgage banks– NOT
    depositories and thus not subject to CRA- to specifically poor Street
    guidelines. they paid MORE for leower quality loans bc they could
    securitize them w a higher coupon while relying on Ratings Agencies to AAA
    them bc they were secured by houses.
    i was a mortgage trader– i was in the room.
    the Fed had nothing to do with it– it was misaligned incentives ab initio

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  10. It’s WAR. division is the cause not the cure. elites couldn’t separate and
    control every society on the planet if the people weren’t so easily
    divided. keep pretending and playing the blame game. it’s not that big of a
    mystery.

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  11. “Free Market”? There’s never been a free market. As long as we continue to
    support any currency-based system that is centralized, capitalism is an
    impossible pipe dream that crony-capitalist supporters with use as a fairy
    tale to convince the foolish and gullible. The only form of currency
    anywhere close to true capitalism is bitcoin, but as we saw with the crash,
    all it takes is banning the currency and the market can be manipulated by
    central banks. The only way we’ll ever get anywhere close to a free market
    is ending the fed, ending the current idea of a government, and most
    importantly ending the control money has over government and vice versa.
    Decentralized governance through direct democracy and decentralized
    currency such as bitcoin or any other digital currency is the only hope
    true capitalism has left. However, since it would require revolution on an
    even larger scale than Iceland’s revolution, its probably not going to
    happen any time soon.

    Of course, this is before you consider that the side effect of crony
    capitalism has cause entire countries to loose any buying power as a
    consumer, thus making a system where even true capitalism would,
    unfortunately, eventually devolve right back into crony capitalism due to
    these countries laws interfering with direct democracy and making the
    wealthy the feudalism lords while the poor continue to be subservient. At
    the end of the day, we can’t win if we continue to limit our thinking to
    only forms of capitalism. The only way we’ll be able to solve these major
    problems is thinking outside that box and looking for alternative solutions
    to crony capitalism and nation-state debt-slavery. One option would be
    extinguish all debts in all countries, thus taking a nuke to all the
    by-products that crony capitalism has left entire nations broke. The
    problem is that it would require authority over the world economy, which
    the current nation-state system effectively makes impossible without
    devolving into WW3.

    So to summarize, we’re basically fucked no mater what we try to do, and
    there’s very little we’ll be able to change about our current situation
    unless there is an international effort by the people and for the people to
    work together on solving these issues, rather than letting centralized
    banks be in charge of the world’s economics.

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  12. Of course its the Fed, because there is no free market. How could there
    be?? A privately owned central bank printing credit dollars is the very
    opposite of Capitalism. America’s marketplace is anything but free, with
    laws banning products, government subsidies, taxes for small companies,
    none for the megacorps. Walmart and McDonalds couldn’t exist in a free
    market, because no one could work for less than a living wage in a free
    market. Only government subsidy and assistance makes this possible.

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  13. It was caused by international regulations that the US accepts, where
    government debt instruments and GSE sponsored debt like securities made
    fromFannie Mae loans are given the highest ranking as the least risky
    investments, so that banks everywhere buy and hold them for their reserve
    requirements, because you don’t have to hold as much of them as you would
    of a lower ranked asset. That’s why the mortgage collapse in the US caused
    a near world wide collapse, when the tech bubble bursting a few years
    earlier had not. International regulations did not make Intel stocks
    something banks around the world held in their required reserves.

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  14. The Fed plays such a huge role in the current version of the financial
    system of course it would fail if it were ended, because it’s built to
    *work* with the fed. If the fed was ever ended the *new* economy would have
    evolve and “develop in a more sustainable way.”

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  15. The FED could be ended tomorrow. Yes there may be a transition period of
    pain. But how is that worse than the pain we’ve experienced already and the
    pain that is unavoidably coming? There is nothing in the constitution that
    turns over the economy to a small group of ober powerful bankers.

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  16. The Fed only “unleashed” primal desires within the banking executives who
    should’ve known better, if anything. THEY let their extreme financial
    urges go unfettered, and we all paid the price. It certainly was not THE
    FED that caused Lehman Bros. to collapse. The Lehman board was
    responsible, first and foremost. It was the irresponsibility of Wall St.
    that we had to watch out for, so proper regulation of that whole system is
    definitely a must, and the Fed, unfortunately, to some extent, screwed up.

    along with various administrations over the last 40 or so years

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  17. Don’t forget that newer institutions like Countrywide WERE NOT subject to
    shit like the CRA or other anti-redlining standards. There was a “shadow”
    banking system in place for a while. A lot of libertarians and
    conservatives pretend as though the system was JUST AS UNCOMPLEX as it was
    30-40 years ago, which is absurd. Plus… didn’t CARTER pass the CRA in 77
    or 78? The idea that a law regarding banking that “forced banks to give
    more loans to bad buyers” would somehow CAUSE A CRASH 30 YEARS LATER.. is
    nothing short of ludicrous! Why didn’t the crash accompany the S&L
    scandal, if anything? Why not in the 90s?? 

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  18. While the Fed may have had a HAND in the crisis, I think just blaming them
    kind of passes the buck on the big banks and non-banking institutions like
    Countrywide that, yes, DID have a weird “profit incentive” TO LEND OUT
    SUBPRIME LOANS! They tapped into this previously-untapped market of new
    homebuyers, and they just went wild. It was certainly not because, “Tehy
    were forced into it.” Very few of these execs, such as the heads of
    Citigroup or JP Morgan, will tell you, “We felt pressured to lend out all
    these bad loans.” It was purely profit motive, in a VERY strange way
    albeit. They could get a down payment, pass it on to Freddie and Fannie,
    have them paid for somehow regardless of whether the actual borrower could
    do it (F&F were “guarantors” and securitizers, right?) and then MAKE LOADS
    MORE LOANS until the bubble burst. While gov’t certainly had a role, one
    can’t minimize the Wall St. role, either! We do so at our own peril. To
    some extent, there WAS a ‘free market’ cause, at least when it came to shit
    like the availability of subprime loans and bankers taking advantage of
    home-buyers, crap like credit default swaps and so much more. This is
    undeniable.

    Hell, read “All the Devils Are Here” for a FIRSTHAND account, based on
    NUMEROUS interviews with banking execs, mid-level managers AND I think even
    some regulators. It’s VERY insightful! Neither side (and esp. not
    libertarians) has it totally right, as reality is oftentimes more nuanced
    than we give it credit.

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