Funded and approved by the US Department of Treasury in 1943, this Disney featurette was to encourage every good American to do his “duty” and pay his taxes,…
One other point, you basic argument seems to boil down to this: “The democratic process has not led to a soceity and/or state as I personally think it should be, therefore democracy is flawed and should be tossed out so that society will become as I personally think it should be.” So, basically you’re a politburo of one, society should function how YOU think it should function and to hell with the others in that society.
"Legalize all drugs and tax them" Will you have a sufficient supply of drug addicts consuming those drugs and paying said taxes on them in order to fund the gov? And income taxes do not pay for the majority of cost involved with roads. Gas tax does, as well as state taxes such as property tax and/or registration fees on cars.
2/2 If you’ve had enough of democracy then you’ll need to find your own alternative. The rest of society isn’t obligated to hand you your fantasy on a plate because you want it. So your other alternative is to leave that society (you are not forced to live in it) and find or create what you want elsewhere. Get together with other like minded people and attempt to create it elsewhere. You won’t do that of course. Creating it from the fround up is hard work. Harder than whinning on the net.
1/2 All societies have some sorm of governance – even tribal societies. It's you who is dreaming of a utopia that's never existed & never will. As for roads the US once had some private turnpikes. Never turned a profit, operated in the red for most of their existence. In the end they couldn't compete when the railroads came along and went under. Roads are expensive to build & maintain. A for profit road would be too costly for most to afford to use. Public roads are a bargain for the majority.
Indeed, income tax wouldn't even be needed to pay for roads and the justice system. Legalize all drugs and tax them, kill too birds with one stone. The pointless drug war ends and there's money for USEFUL stuff, without need for income tax. If people want to kill themselves through drug abuse they may. It's not the gov's business to patronize us.
No, I've had enough of democracy. It's an utopia and will never work, just like the egalitarian principles like communism. The ONLY way to have freedom and happiness is by means of a "night watchman state". Go read on wikipedia if you don't know it. Eliminate government and all political crap completely, courts and police remain to protect the people's liberties with a constitution, not violate them. Roads can be built privately, WAY better in fact, than with some bureaucrat moron interfering.
One major flaw, if not the BIGGEST flaw of democracy, perhaps even its Achilles heel: People will vote according to their beliefs/knowledge. Now with the mass media dumbing down everybody, democracy effectively becomes fascism. And don't tell me the media doesn't do that. They do, more than any of us can imagine. If just 40% of America knew what the Patriot Act says there would have been a second Civil War by now. Or, at least half of all Congress members would have been shot or hanged.
Our governments aren't any different. We just keep telling ourselves that we have "democracies" when there is NOTHING democratic about it. No matter what puppet you vote in, the puppet masters keep pulling the strings. If you do occasionally read the news from independent sources you will notice politicians keep making decisions against the will of the populace. Isn't that the exact opposite of what democracy (people rule) means?
Yes, I use those things ("roads, schools, parks") and know they are paid for with taxes. I also know socialists LOVE to mention these things, but the issue is, less than 10% of spending in most industrial nations is needed to cover them. At least 90% of taxes are being used to pay crooked politicians, bail out corporations and banks, foreign aid, wars, organized crime, dismantling of civil liberties, etc. WHICH I DO NOT APPROVE OF AND NEVER WILL.
In fact they do. It's the same everywhere. Humans with their greed for power are a disease, a cancer. The whole world is infected with it. Now I'm not going to live in the woods like a nomad, so what are my alternatives? I can't move to Mars exactly, as much as I'd LOVE to.
That said, Sweden and Norway are overrated. Their crime rates have been steadily increasing in the past decades. Their citizens aren't allowed to defend themselves against criminals. Nice standard of living.
because i work my ass off and i NEED the internet for my job. therefore i need a computer and electricity, which my family so graciously helped me get.
because i work my ass off and i NEED the internet for my job. therefore i need a computer and electricity, which my family so graciously helped me get.
I agree with what you say about military spending – Eisenhower warned about that. If you are as bad off as you say, then you would have no tax liability. How does a "borderline" homeless person have a computer, internet and electricity?
Most third world countries have autocratic governments, there are no democratic processes by which the people themselves have the ability to influence or determine what type of society they wish to have. How uncomfortable is your life? As uncomfortable as a child laborer in Bangladesh? As uncomfortable as someone in a New Delhi slum? Western Euro countries also have superior health care – paid for with taxes.
I'm all for ending the wars & ending ill advised military adventurism. But income tax will still be needed to pay for those things we all benefit from: public roads, parks, fire & police services, emergency services, etc. The income tax rate in the US is very low compared to many other countries, you could try one of them out for perspective.
fuck the income tax maybe we should abolish income tax and STOP giving tax breaks to big corporations that can easily fill the gap. end these wars too that'll save a lot of money. stop paying to rebuild nations that we destroyed stop paying for the defense of japan and other nations and maybe we wouldnt need income tax. but making me pay to work to pay some more is a financial bondage that could be considered slavery because you end up a slave to the banks that lend us the money. including china
the 3rd world made their society the way it is with their beliefs. the 3rd world is actually very rich believe it or not. their government just hordes all of the money. kind of like how our government would rather spend tax payer money on wars, and rebuilding other nations while our's falls apart. india is a 3rd world country and yet their health care far surpasses our own. dont give that shit about the 3rd world. and dont think i have a comfortable lifestyle BECAUSE I DONT!
i am held against my will, in a financial bondage. im far from living a comfortable lifestyle, and income tax is pointless, if we didnt have all of these wars going on, all of these military bases scattered across the world, paying for the defense of japan, germany etc…. maybe there wouldnt be a need for income tax. because that money thats taken out of my check i NEED IT NOW! i cant wait for tax returns. im border line homeless. busting my ass just to barely make it by.
"3rd world shit holes are shit holes because they're socialist" That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Now Sweden and Norway both have markety economies but many socialistic aspects to their countries and their standards of living are among the highest in the world. So long as the majority of your fellow citizens support taxation and the services provided by it then you're out of luck. Your remedy is to move some place where you like the tax policy better, no one forces you to live there.
It most certainly has been legal for centuries. The Romans also collected taxes. Do you drive on public roads? Ever used police, fire or emergency services? Sanitation services? Used a public park? Public schools? National security that protects you and your country from attack and invasion? Thieves do not provide you with those and all of the other services. I concern myself w/ the realities & practicalities of the world, not those who live in fantasy worlds of their own making.
Those 3rd world shit holes are shit holes because they’re socialist. If they’d embrace true capitalism they would be rich. Not each and every single person would be rich, but a heck of a lot more people than now.
No, it wasn't legal originally. Taking the fruit of my labor and giving it to others is essentially THEFT. Theft has never been legal for centuries, neither in Europe nor in the colonies.
Slavery means you are held against you will in bondage. No one forces you to live in the United States. If not for taxation you wouldn't have shit, including the comfortable lifestyle you currently enjoy in a 1st world country. There are millions in 3rd world shit holes who would love to trade places w/ you. You should do so w/ delay. Then you'll learn something of true misery.
Taxes are permitted by the constituion of your country – them being a crime is only your opinion. Try to challenge it in court. If it wasn't for taxation and the 1st world country you live in you wouldn't have the high standard of living that you currently enjoy. You don't want to pay taxes, remove yourself from your society & country to a different one that suits you better.
LOL 1) All states have engaged in some degree of propaganda 2) Taxes don't equal socialism – unless you think every state in the world is socialist 3) "It's your war too" are you suggesting WW II was avoidable? I suppose Hitler should have just been allowed to go unopposed? 4) The US had no permanent armaments industry prior to WW II all industry had to be converted to the war effort practically overnight, everyone was expected do their part – unless you'd prefer a world where the axis won.
"It's your war too" Hahaha. Fuck the US gov. Funny how Americans claim to be capitalist. Hahaha. Taxes = socialism. It scares me to know this cartoon was funded by the US gov. But I'm not suprised at all.
My dad's parents saved their ration booklets from that time. Sugar, milk, butter, etc. all rationed. How much you could buy each month depended upon the number of people in your family. It's interesting to look at them now. I'm glad they saved them.
Its funny how using your money as you want is shown as evil nazi thing,while being sheeple to your government is shown as good thing.
Politics sure seems overwhelming…
1942 : Taxes to sink the Axis
2013 : Taxes to sink Goldman Sackes.
more like they're sinking us by stealing our taxes for bailouts & bonuses
death to America!
don't reply to me again you communist.
One other point, you basic argument seems to boil down to this: “The democratic process has not led to a soceity and/or state as I personally think it should be, therefore democracy is flawed and should be tossed out so that society will become as I personally think it should be.” So, basically you’re a politburo of one, society should function how YOU think it should function and to hell with the others in that society.
"Legalize all drugs and tax them" Will you have a sufficient supply of drug addicts consuming those drugs and paying said taxes on them in order to fund the gov? And income taxes do not pay for the majority of cost involved with roads. Gas tax does, as well as state taxes such as property tax and/or registration fees on cars.
2/2 If you’ve had enough of democracy then you’ll need to find your own alternative. The rest of society isn’t obligated to hand you your fantasy on a plate because you want it. So your other alternative is to leave that society (you are not forced to live in it) and find or create what you want elsewhere. Get together with other like minded people and attempt to create it elsewhere. You won’t do that of course. Creating it from the fround up is hard work. Harder than whinning on the net.
1/2 All societies have some sorm of governance – even tribal societies. It's you who is dreaming of a utopia that's never existed & never will. As for roads the US once had some private turnpikes. Never turned a profit, operated in the red for most of their existence. In the end they couldn't compete when the railroads came along and went under. Roads are expensive to build & maintain. A for profit road would be too costly for most to afford to use. Public roads are a bargain for the majority.
people can be fooled so easily.. just take a look at the champion of bullshit; religion
Indeed, income tax wouldn't even be needed to pay for roads and the justice system. Legalize all drugs and tax them, kill too birds with one stone. The pointless drug war ends and there's money for USEFUL stuff, without need for income tax. If people want to kill themselves through drug abuse they may. It's not the gov's business to patronize us.
No, I've had enough of democracy. It's an utopia and will never work, just like the egalitarian principles like communism. The ONLY way to have freedom and happiness is by means of a "night watchman state". Go read on wikipedia if you don't know it. Eliminate government and all political crap completely, courts and police remain to protect the people's liberties with a constitution, not violate them. Roads can be built privately, WAY better in fact, than with some bureaucrat moron interfering.
One major flaw, if not the BIGGEST flaw of democracy, perhaps even its Achilles heel: People will vote according to their beliefs/knowledge. Now with the mass media dumbing down everybody, democracy effectively becomes fascism. And don't tell me the media doesn't do that. They do, more than any of us can imagine. If just 40% of America knew what the Patriot Act says there would have been a second Civil War by now. Or, at least half of all Congress members would have been shot or hanged.
Our governments aren't any different. We just keep telling ourselves that we have "democracies" when there is NOTHING democratic about it. No matter what puppet you vote in, the puppet masters keep pulling the strings. If you do occasionally read the news from independent sources you will notice politicians keep making decisions against the will of the populace. Isn't that the exact opposite of what democracy (people rule) means?
Yes, I use those things ("roads, schools, parks") and know they are paid for with taxes. I also know socialists LOVE to mention these things, but the issue is, less than 10% of spending in most industrial nations is needed to cover them. At least 90% of taxes are being used to pay crooked politicians, bail out corporations and banks, foreign aid, wars, organized crime, dismantling of civil liberties, etc. WHICH I DO NOT APPROVE OF AND NEVER WILL.
In fact they do. It's the same everywhere. Humans with their greed for power are a disease, a cancer. The whole world is infected with it. Now I'm not going to live in the woods like a nomad, so what are my alternatives? I can't move to Mars exactly, as much as I'd LOVE to.
That said, Sweden and Norway are overrated. Their crime rates have been steadily increasing in the past decades. Their citizens aren't allowed to defend themselves against criminals. Nice standard of living.
because i work my ass off and i NEED the internet for my job. therefore i need a computer and electricity, which my family so graciously helped me get.
because i work my ass off and i NEED the internet for my job. therefore i need a computer and electricity, which my family so graciously helped me get.
I agree with what you say about military spending – Eisenhower warned about that. If you are as bad off as you say, then you would have no tax liability. How does a "borderline" homeless person have a computer, internet and electricity?
Most third world countries have autocratic governments, there are no democratic processes by which the people themselves have the ability to influence or determine what type of society they wish to have. How uncomfortable is your life? As uncomfortable as a child laborer in Bangladesh? As uncomfortable as someone in a New Delhi slum? Western Euro countries also have superior health care – paid for with taxes.
I'm all for ending the wars & ending ill advised military adventurism. But income tax will still be needed to pay for those things we all benefit from: public roads, parks, fire & police services, emergency services, etc. The income tax rate in the US is very low compared to many other countries, you could try one of them out for perspective.
fuck the income tax maybe we should abolish income tax and STOP giving tax breaks to big corporations that can easily fill the gap. end these wars too that'll save a lot of money. stop paying to rebuild nations that we destroyed stop paying for the defense of japan and other nations and maybe we wouldnt need income tax. but making me pay to work to pay some more is a financial bondage that could be considered slavery because you end up a slave to the banks that lend us the money. including china
the 3rd world made their society the way it is with their beliefs. the 3rd world is actually very rich believe it or not. their government just hordes all of the money. kind of like how our government would rather spend tax payer money on wars, and rebuilding other nations while our's falls apart. india is a 3rd world country and yet their health care far surpasses our own. dont give that shit about the 3rd world. and dont think i have a comfortable lifestyle BECAUSE I DONT!
i am held against my will, in a financial bondage. im far from living a comfortable lifestyle, and income tax is pointless, if we didnt have all of these wars going on, all of these military bases scattered across the world, paying for the defense of japan, germany etc…. maybe there wouldnt be a need for income tax. because that money thats taken out of my check i NEED IT NOW! i cant wait for tax returns. im border line homeless. busting my ass just to barely make it by.
"3rd world shit holes are shit holes because they're socialist" That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. Now Sweden and Norway both have markety economies but many socialistic aspects to their countries and their standards of living are among the highest in the world. So long as the majority of your fellow citizens support taxation and the services provided by it then you're out of luck. Your remedy is to move some place where you like the tax policy better, no one forces you to live there.
It most certainly has been legal for centuries. The Romans also collected taxes. Do you drive on public roads? Ever used police, fire or emergency services? Sanitation services? Used a public park? Public schools? National security that protects you and your country from attack and invasion? Thieves do not provide you with those and all of the other services. I concern myself w/ the realities & practicalities of the world, not those who live in fantasy worlds of their own making.
Those 3rd world shit holes are shit holes because they’re socialist. If they’d embrace true capitalism they would be rich. Not each and every single person would be rich, but a heck of a lot more people than now.
No, it wasn't legal originally. Taking the fruit of my labor and giving it to others is essentially THEFT. Theft has never been legal for centuries, neither in Europe nor in the colonies.
Slavery means you are held against you will in bondage. No one forces you to live in the United States. If not for taxation you wouldn't have shit, including the comfortable lifestyle you currently enjoy in a 1st world country. There are millions in 3rd world shit holes who would love to trade places w/ you. You should do so w/ delay. Then you'll learn something of true misery.
Taxes are permitted by the constituion of your country – them being a crime is only your opinion. Try to challenge it in court. If it wasn't for taxation and the 1st world country you live in you wouldn't have the high standard of living that you currently enjoy. You don't want to pay taxes, remove yourself from your society & country to a different one that suits you better.
LOL 1) All states have engaged in some degree of propaganda 2) Taxes don't equal socialism – unless you think every state in the world is socialist 3) "It's your war too" are you suggesting WW II was avoidable? I suppose Hitler should have just been allowed to go unopposed? 4) The US had no permanent armaments industry prior to WW II all industry had to be converted to the war effort practically overnight, everyone was expected do their part – unless you'd prefer a world where the axis won.
This is actual proof that the USA is a fascist nation. Free republics don’t have any propaganda.
"It's your war too" Hahaha. Fuck the US gov. Funny how Americans claim to be capitalist. Hahaha. Taxes = socialism. It scares me to know this cartoon was funded by the US gov. But I'm not suprised at all.
Yes!
Taxes are a crime.
My dad's parents saved their ration booklets from that time. Sugar, milk, butter, etc. all rationed. How much you could buy each month depended upon the number of people in your family. It's interesting to look at them now. I'm glad they saved them.
Yeah, in the case on WW2 thats probably true.