Luke Rudkowski of WeAreChange sits down with David Icke to get his perspective on the Bilderberg Group and The Illuminati. Follow Luke @ http://www.twitter.c…
I've stopped looking at these sorts of videos as "exposing the evil secret societies!!11!" and started looking at them as reference material on how to start/manage one's own group. Much more enjoyable that way.
btw, I don’t think Icke is a fan of religion himself. At least that’s the impression I got from his book ‘The Biggest Secret’ in which he seemed to imply that all religions are just another tool to keep people divided and in conflict.
Yes that's true. Not all people who believe in God are maniacal, bible-belting religionists either, but sometimes I feel the likes of Dawkins are trying to present it that way, as if there is some big kulturkampf, with religion on one side and atheists on the other. I prefer the 'you have your religion and I have mine' myself.
I wish there were more atheists who were openly critical of Israel and US foreign policy the way people of faith like Farrakhan, Ron Paul, and the Muslims are.
What rubbish. ALL types of people have the potential to be bad, especially those that get their beliefs from a book as depraved as the Koran.
As you've probably guessed, I'm a white, male atheist and also middle class, but guess what, I hate those that run the west too, and would end the foreign wars, promote the family, promote good virtues and tell Israel where to stick it if I ever had the power to.
Things are not so black and white.
Well given that nearly all the men involved in what Icke regularly talks about (Illuminati, Zionism, Elite, warmongering, etc) are wealthy white males, I would be hesitant to adopt anything that a majority of them promote such as atheism, which usually ties in with things like a disregard for family/marriage, rampant abortion, sodomy, greed — as opposed to say the black Muslims who teach righteousness, respect, structure, support for the poor and other things that I personally value.
It's probably true that the majority of poor, non white people tend to be believers (there are plenty of wealthy, white, well educated believers all over the world too). But so what?
You say it's just an observation but the way you phrased; "Can you show me ONE atheist that is even black and from the ghetto?" sounds to me like you think there is something wrong with being white and well off.
With the Satanist-Atheist thing, All the satanists who behave and partake in sickness and perversions dismiss God, and have no faith the same way the atheists don't – so what's wrong with linking them? Particularly when atheists support many things that go against what the scriptures say (gay marriage). For example, Do you think Josef Fritzl's religious beliefs are going to be closer to Farrakhan's or Dawkins'?
Because I think you'll find that almost all black people (and a majority of other people of color) who live in urban areas believe in God and an have unreserved faith in a Creator. Whereas atheists tend to live in wealthy suburbs and go to expensive schools. It's more of an observation than a point or argument, but something I have yet to get any answer from atheists on. Try telling Louis Farrakhan 'There is no God' LOL
What has race or wealth got to do with anything? Why would you think that's a meaningful point?
Also, how can you possibly link atheism to Satanism. There can be no atheist Satanists by definition. If anything, THEISM has more in common with Satanism, since y' know…They actually believe in him.
And actually no I didn't, (though I am aware of Dawkins' refusal to debate WLC) my rule comes from personal experience. I often find myself wasting too much energy on people that don't deserve it.
Well I've noticed that the majority of people who fiercely deny Creation and preach nothing but soulless atheism AND satanism are well-off, or wealthy white males. So what's your answer to that? Can you show me ONE atheist that is even black and from the ghetto?
By the way, I see you just copied your little rule straight from your Lord and master Richard Dawkins. LOL
Oh, I have plenty more, believe me, the thing is I have a rule that I am trying to stick to. It's called "Don't debate with theists, idiots or liars", and I'm afraid you fall into at least two of those categories.
But let me leave you with this, evolution IS a fact, the only thing still up for debate is the TYPE of evolution that gave rise to us. Creationism on the other hand is not even a theory, it's just wishful thinking by desperate, naive, babyish people.
Icke doesn't understand it AT ALL.
That's all you have? Huffing and puffing about what is and isn't the correct definition of a 'theory'? ROFL. EVolution is not FACT. Period. I'm not denying evolution has happened within species, but to go from that to asserting that evolution is UNDENIABLY the answer to how we all got here – as you and Dawkins do is blinkered arrogance to say the least. And the to accuse Icke of not understanding evolution displays a woeful contempt for the science that you yourself hold so much faith in.
There are multiple definitions of “theory”, retard. A scientific theory is a body of work. Theories can also be facts, like the heliocentric theory.
How embarrassing.
Simple chemicals? Do you really have no idea of the science behind what you preach?you expect me to believe that we all just arose from the same common ancestor as monkeys, pigs, rabbits, and fish. If you understood and studied evolution you would understand there are many gaps in it, and missing links in the evolution chain. Evolution fails to explain the origin of species from a unicellular prokaryotic common ancestor. Without the need for a creator, do you know how low that probability is?
Well don't present your scientific THEORY as fact then, when there are clearly many problems with it that you atheists seem to just want to overlook while you fulminate about religion. And yes most people who are establishment drones are atheists. You very rarely get any atheists doing what Icke does for example. Atheists prefer the plutocratic system and couldn't care less about poor people, just so long as they can carry on sipping fine wines and hanging out with their middlebrow chums.
Comments like this would be hilarious if they weren't so tragic…. Simple chemicals could not evolve into life without the help of highly complex, all knowing, all powerful god that just popped into existence? Give me a break.
Don't lecture people about the theory of evolution when you hold unscientific beliefs that appear to contradict it.
So I'm a drone (and most probably a Dawkins-lickin', politician-lovin', middle class, establishment suck up) because I don't jump to conclusions about people being lizards? OK. If that makes you feel better about holding those warped beliefs of yours then go ahead and believe that. In truth I'm rather jealous of you. I wish I could retreat into the world of imagination as often as you obviously do, but I can't seem to forget about those pesky facts!
It's definitely not a human brain behind politicians. I don't even think human psychopaths would do what they do. So, we are dealing with alien/hybrid psychopaths. Easy, I figured that out the day I was born. When I was a child I understood a lot of this through my feelings and when I hear David Icke speaking, it's as if someone is singing the words to a melody I already knew. He is brilliant. Wouldn't it be great if all of us stopped being a slave and embarked on a journey like him.
If you fully understood evolution yourself you would know that it is extremely unlikely that it could have occurred without an active involvement of a creator. Before you try to pontificate to people of faith, know your own position thoroughly please. Whilst I don't agree with Icke on everything, it's obvious an atheist would try to discredit someone like him because they are nearly all middle class, 'proper' establishment suck-ups lol
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I've stopped looking at these sorts of videos as "exposing the evil secret societies!!11!" and started looking at them as reference material on how to start/manage one's own group. Much more enjoyable that way.
it was so respectful
thats so funny
his wife is in the next room with the dildo
calm down big man
I dont know but I wish you'd shut up!
what the hell is that noise in the background of the video.
btw, I don’t think Icke is a fan of religion himself. At least that’s the impression I got from his book ‘The Biggest Secret’ in which he seemed to imply that all religions are just another tool to keep people divided and in conflict.
Yes that's true. Not all people who believe in God are maniacal, bible-belting religionists either, but sometimes I feel the likes of Dawkins are trying to present it that way, as if there is some big kulturkampf, with religion on one side and atheists on the other. I prefer the 'you have your religion and I have mine' myself.
I wish there were more atheists who were openly critical of Israel and US foreign policy the way people of faith like Farrakhan, Ron Paul, and the Muslims are.
What rubbish. ALL types of people have the potential to be bad, especially those that get their beliefs from a book as depraved as the Koran.
As you've probably guessed, I'm a white, male atheist and also middle class, but guess what, I hate those that run the west too, and would end the foreign wars, promote the family, promote good virtues and tell Israel where to stick it if I ever had the power to.
Things are not so black and white.
Well given that nearly all the men involved in what Icke regularly talks about (Illuminati, Zionism, Elite, warmongering, etc) are wealthy white males, I would be hesitant to adopt anything that a majority of them promote such as atheism, which usually ties in with things like a disregard for family/marriage, rampant abortion, sodomy, greed — as opposed to say the black Muslims who teach righteousness, respect, structure, support for the poor and other things that I personally value.
It's probably true that the majority of poor, non white people tend to be believers (there are plenty of wealthy, white, well educated believers all over the world too). But so what?
You say it's just an observation but the way you phrased; "Can you show me ONE atheist that is even black and from the ghetto?" sounds to me like you think there is something wrong with being white and well off.
With the Satanist-Atheist thing, All the satanists who behave and partake in sickness and perversions dismiss God, and have no faith the same way the atheists don't – so what's wrong with linking them? Particularly when atheists support many things that go against what the scriptures say (gay marriage). For example, Do you think Josef Fritzl's religious beliefs are going to be closer to Farrakhan's or Dawkins'?
Because I think you'll find that almost all black people (and a majority of other people of color) who live in urban areas believe in God and an have unreserved faith in a Creator. Whereas atheists tend to live in wealthy suburbs and go to expensive schools. It's more of an observation than a point or argument, but something I have yet to get any answer from atheists on. Try telling Louis Farrakhan 'There is no God' LOL
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What has race or wealth got to do with anything? Why would you think that's a meaningful point?
Also, how can you possibly link atheism to Satanism. There can be no atheist Satanists by definition. If anything, THEISM has more in common with Satanism, since y' know…They actually believe in him.
And actually no I didn't, (though I am aware of Dawkins' refusal to debate WLC) my rule comes from personal experience. I often find myself wasting too much energy on people that don't deserve it.
Well I've noticed that the majority of people who fiercely deny Creation and preach nothing but soulless atheism AND satanism are well-off, or wealthy white males. So what's your answer to that? Can you show me ONE atheist that is even black and from the ghetto?
By the way, I see you just copied your little rule straight from your Lord and master Richard Dawkins. LOL
Oh, I have plenty more, believe me, the thing is I have a rule that I am trying to stick to. It's called "Don't debate with theists, idiots or liars", and I'm afraid you fall into at least two of those categories.
But let me leave you with this, evolution IS a fact, the only thing still up for debate is the TYPE of evolution that gave rise to us. Creationism on the other hand is not even a theory, it's just wishful thinking by desperate, naive, babyish people.
Icke doesn't understand it AT ALL.
That's all you have? Huffing and puffing about what is and isn't the correct definition of a 'theory'? ROFL. EVolution is not FACT. Period. I'm not denying evolution has happened within species, but to go from that to asserting that evolution is UNDENIABLY the answer to how we all got here – as you and Dawkins do is blinkered arrogance to say the least. And the to accuse Icke of not understanding evolution displays a woeful contempt for the science that you yourself hold so much faith in.
Hahahahahahahahaha. Do some research, pal.
There are multiple definitions of “theory”, retard. A scientific theory is a body of work. Theories can also be facts, like the heliocentric theory.
How embarrassing.
Simple chemicals? Do you really have no idea of the science behind what you preach?you expect me to believe that we all just arose from the same common ancestor as monkeys, pigs, rabbits, and fish. If you understood and studied evolution you would understand there are many gaps in it, and missing links in the evolution chain. Evolution fails to explain the origin of species from a unicellular prokaryotic common ancestor. Without the need for a creator, do you know how low that probability is?
Well don't present your scientific THEORY as fact then, when there are clearly many problems with it that you atheists seem to just want to overlook while you fulminate about religion. And yes most people who are establishment drones are atheists. You very rarely get any atheists doing what Icke does for example. Atheists prefer the plutocratic system and couldn't care less about poor people, just so long as they can carry on sipping fine wines and hanging out with their middlebrow chums.
Comments like this would be hilarious if they weren't so tragic…. Simple chemicals could not evolve into life without the help of highly complex, all knowing, all powerful god that just popped into existence? Give me a break.
Don't lecture people about the theory of evolution when you hold unscientific beliefs that appear to contradict it.
So I'm a drone (and most probably a Dawkins-lickin', politician-lovin', middle class, establishment suck up) because I don't jump to conclusions about people being lizards? OK. If that makes you feel better about holding those warped beliefs of yours then go ahead and believe that. In truth I'm rather jealous of you. I wish I could retreat into the world of imagination as often as you obviously do, but I can't seem to forget about those pesky facts!
It's definitely not a human brain behind politicians. I don't even think human psychopaths would do what they do. So, we are dealing with alien/hybrid psychopaths. Easy, I figured that out the day I was born. When I was a child I understood a lot of this through my feelings and when I hear David Icke speaking, it's as if someone is singing the words to a melody I already knew. He is brilliant. Wouldn't it be great if all of us stopped being a slave and embarked on a journey like him.
If you fully understood evolution yourself you would know that it is extremely unlikely that it could have occurred without an active involvement of a creator. Before you try to pontificate to people of faith, know your own position thoroughly please. Whilst I don't agree with Icke on everything, it's obvious an atheist would try to discredit someone like him because they are nearly all middle class, 'proper' establishment suck-ups lol