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These 2 guys smell of illuminati. You guys aren't bahai's are you?
Are you open minded? Usually closed mindedness comes from a deep preference
that a stance is true or not. Atheists prefer that God doesn't exist
because if He does exist, then they are fearful of death and judgment. Some
believers prefer that God exists because if He doesn't exist, then they
invested their life in a lie, are subject to embarrassment and their social
ties dissolve.
I, on the other hand, wished that God didn't exist until I was in deep
trouble. I then asked God to take control of my life and do whatever He
wanted with me, if He could just get me out of the jam. He did so instantly
and filled my life with joy and peace….all because I embraced His right
to control my life.
Since I could think, I hated the idea of God controlling my life and now I
love it.
What peer reviewed science are these guys talking about? They are either
really really uninformed or are defending the official government endorsed
conspiracy theory to keep their ability to have their little show go on.
WTC 7 is one gigantic piece of evidence that the government has never
provided a peer reviewed paper on why it collapsed.
These "c-theorists" are exactly like you atheist. The government put out
the official 911 story or "claim" as you guys always call it. The evidence
for the official story is lacking and doesn't add up therefore
"c-theorists" reject the claim and therefore doesn't believe it much like
you atheists don't believe in god. I think it is kind of hypocritical of
you people to bash of these "c-theorists" and to be honest, I think its
because a lot of these people are Christians. The evidence is overwhelming
and why should you care? Because of people like you, people who don't find
the answer for yourselves and sit on your ass all day until someone brings
you the answer on a silver platter…you people are all part of the
problem why the government gets away with the most ridiculous shit…
I don't know why it's so hard to believe that the Rich and powerful elite
would get together and make plans to screw everyone else. There are evil
selfish people in the world who only care about themselves and some times
evil people get in positions of power. If you don't believe that there can
be evil people in Government then you need to talk to some Germans.
Wow, talk about a classic strawman – right off the bat "conspiracy
theorist" are made out to be narcissistic attention grabbers whose only
motivation is to be put on a pedestal and revered because "they alone" have
insight. Rubbish. I believed the official story for about 3 years –
believed it without question. But then after examining the evidence – like
47 story 14 year old buildings predictably suffering complete collapse due
to fire… the natural human curiosity takes over. These guys should watch
the Star Trek TNG episode – "Clues". They probably think Picard and Data
are narcissistic know-it-alls as well.
Well in that case why is it that there was an engine there? And if all this
that you say is true, why is it that you have not submitted this to a
journal for peer review?
There is no video in existence that shows a plane came even remotely close
to the pentagon
yes
1. ok, small claim that could be disproven 2. Flashes before the planes
hit. What do you deduce from that? It's you who's making the claim? 3. The
towers fell like a controlled demolition. Yes, and yet there was no loud
bang of a controlled demolition, like there are in ALL the other CD videos.
Also it topples over to one side if you look close. 4. False Dichotomy. 5.
There were dozens of parts found, including the engine. All you need to do
is use Google.
No. If you look at the few frames we have you can clearly see that as the
image of the plane comes into frame, there is a giant fin on top of it. In
times of crisis, people tend to lie, cops do not take eye witness testimony
as the main form of such, some of the Sandy Hook people might have been
lying. He may have done it to get attention? The 5 lampposts were knocked
down, and a generator hit away, that is out of the flight path of 'The
Missile'.
I don't know why there would be an engine that's not of a 747. Don't you
think that's a little strange? And the problem is that this evidence has
been proposed multiple times and it's always just waved off as conspiracy
theory nonsense for whatever reason
of course. :L And the lampposts?
1. Never has been 2. The flashes suggest some sort of explosive used 3.
There were hundreds of reports that loud bangs and explosions were heard.
4. Not false at all 5. There were no wing parts or tail parts. There was
one engine found i believe, but it was proven to NOT be part of a 747
What plane footage are you referring to? And the only evidence that exists
of that confiscated tape is the testimony of the owner of the gas station
where the camera was, since no other evidence could possibly exist. And the
understaffing is a hugely popular excuse for the cameras and i'm amazed
everyone can accept that so quickly and not any other theory. And yes, bush
was an idiot lol, but if he knew then the gov't knew, which means they let
it happen for whatever reason
The few frames we have no matter how unclear does show a visible fin that
is on top of the plane. Well do you not count in the possibility of his
testimony being false? I bet some of the people at Sandy Hook were lying to
get on the news, it doesn't equal grand conspiracy. Theres also the fact
that the lampposts were knocked over and theres generators knocked on the
sides also. I never said the understaffing was, I just said that might be a
possibility.
Everything that is currently recognized as scientific proof wasn't at one
time, but that didn't make it any less true. Also, a big reason why most of
the questions regarding 9/11 are brushed off is because the US government
went out of there way to cover up a lot of potential evidence, and for some
reason the world has unanimously decided that anyone who questions what the
gov't said is an idiot.
Well I'd like some proof of that. And until your evidence is recognised as
scientific proof, I'm not going to take it very seriously, as you just
said, 'its always just waved off as conspiracy theory nonsense'
So are you talking about the pentagon?
Ok well until you can prove that the government is covering it up, it
remains as it is. But I could equally say that the government is keeping
the scientific community quiet about creation, or that the government is
hiding the existence of aliens. I'm pretty sure that if you said that 1st
claim that you say has never been debunked to a scientist of some kind, he
would probably consider it for review. Or maybe the evidence that the
government is covering it up?
Are you referring to the planes that hit the towers? And yes his testimony
could have been false, but i don't see why he would lie and not just give
up the footage if he still had it. And i dunno what lampposts/generators ur
talking about
Well the footage we have of the plane coming in is clearly a plane by the
footage showing a giant fin. Where is your evidence that the pentagon tape
was confiscated? I am aware that the pentagon was understaffed around that
time due to construction work so that might explain the cameras. Maybe you
are right and Bush did have advanced knowledge. But then again I could say,
its Bush, he's an idiot.
Well there are certain cover ups that we now know did occur. Like the video
tape showing the pentagon was confiscated, all the cameras on the pentagon
were mysteriously turned off that day, the fact that bush had advanced
knowledge of the attacks has been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt,
etc. There's just too much questionable evidence surrounding the whole
event to not suspect that at least something more was going on that day
A conspiracy theory loon calling me uneducated. Hilarious. Islam is not a
race its an evil belief system that suppresses people and treats women like
farm animals. I guess I'm a "racist" if I hate Nazis too right? Do the
world a favor and off yourself you lowlife piece of shit.
Well wait a minute. I know most theories are off the wall and for people
who want an alternative reason who can't accept the truth. But there are
some that present some decent evidence (like 9-11). You can't just say that
all conspiracy theories are mumbo jumbo. Like these guys actually know what
happened. I believe in not believing everything your told especially by the
government and Wikipedia. The more I watch these guys the more arrogant
they get.
Come now. Nobody's THAT dumb
@cassioam Ok, let me be blunt, douchebag. I personally knew someone who
died on the plane that went into the pentagon. I lived in the area. i take
umbrage at two bit little shits like you that want to enhance their penis
size by latching on to conspiracy bulllshit. You don't know, and you
opinion is worthless and insulting. Clear enough?
Tell me where did you get your Engineering degree and what qualifies you to
make truth claims on how buildings should and should not fall? And also
tell me why this "controlled demolition" did not produce any sound? All
these years and not a single formal peer reviewed study exists which
supports any conspiracy theory fantasies. If all the scientists and
engineers who looked at 911 are all wrong, where is the peer reviewed
science that demonstrates it?
Mininukes under the towers that were originally placed there due to the
state requiring an emergency demolition plan. Best one I've heard yet.
You keep saying there's evidence yet you can't seem to state what that
evidence is. Investigate themselves? So everyone at Popular Mechanics, the
History Channel, Purdue University and Northwestern University have all
done independent investigation blowing your loony conspiracy theory
fantasies right out of the water. Because you have a cognitive dissonance
towards evidence which contradicts your conspiracy fantasies is evidence
you are a delusional moron there mad tinfoil hatter.
Common sense called, and would like to know what the evil false-flagging
government did with the passengers and pilots that supposedly died in the
attack?
Some evidence are the small balls of metal found in the rubble of the
towers. Several experiments have shown that these balls of metal can only
be produced in a thermite reaction involving steel. I'm not saying I'm on
this caller's side but there is evidence out there that needs to be refuted
by the US government. Not all of the conspiracy theories regarding 9/11
involve purely the absence of evidence.
@cassioam Please don't breed.We have enough stupid people already.
Being an atheist does not make you someone who smart, apparently.
Your point? Do you even have an argument?
No it wasn't. There were dozens of leaks and it didn't involve faking a
globally publicized event. Seriously, your thoughts can't be this sloppy?
Another atheist who throws the word TRUTH around…SMH….They are
interested in TRUTH? What is the TRUTH? You must be able to demonstrate
TRUTH! They cant demonstrate the TRUTH, because they dont even know. They
claim there is no god that is a TRUTH statement.
Building 7 was most certainly not a controlled demolition and you can
clearly see the Penthouse on top being engulfed in flames and collapsing
before the rest of the building does. A controlled demolition would have
been deafening loud yet there were no sounds of the sort. There is also
peer reviewed science which explains how Bldg 7 fell. So is the whole
scientific community in on the big conspiracy or being paid to cover it up?
(cue Twilight Zone music) LOL
1) Learn to spell you alliterate freak. 2) You are a complete idiot. You
have the disgusting naivety to think that you're superior to the thousands
of scientists and engineers around the world that prove one of your
pathetic little loopholes wrong every time. If something isn't quite right,
then theorists will pick at it and will still be in denial once they're
instantly proved wrong. Fuck you. You're as gullible as the Christians that
ruin America.
Why would you think that I would know that?
@moopism Oh, that's why you're so emotional? Is that why you keep calling
completely strangers stupid and douchebags instead of having a rational
debate? Even if I decided to believe in an internet troll like you, what
would that prove? People who were in the plane that allegedly hit pentagon
died, everyone knows that and that was never a pro-inside-job argument, so
I miss your point. Anyway, you have bigger issues, man. Maybe therapy will
help you the your rage problem.
Asking a conspiracy theory cultist for evidence is like asking a homeless
bum for fifty bucks.
They're not journalists, why shouldn't they be biased? If skepticism and
science are bias then you're correct.
Because there is no argument and the only people who take conspiracy theory
claims seriously are wacko conspiracy theorists. The fact you are suffering
from cognitive dissonance and don't think plane wreckage, an engine and
multiple eyewitnesses including a reporter who all saw a plane is evidence
simply means you are delusional. So tell me tin foil hatter, were the
airlines part of the conspiracy or were they being paid to perpetuate it?
You are a complete and utter moron, and it makes me sad to know that I
share a planet with human beings as stupid, gullible, and infantile as
yourself. Either educate yourself or stop talking.